For those who do not remember it, this "Deal" Utah is claiming as a Victory for it self concerning the U.E.P. Trust is about as much a "Victory" as the return of the children held by Texas was for the CPS and CASA dykes and "Judge" barbie.
As you may recall back then, Texas said that while the children were going to be going back home, that DID NOT mean that CPS and CASA were going to be putting their tail between their legs and running away, they were still going to "Monitor and control" the children. They were still going to be involved with them, and their parents in seeing to it that the children were "Safe". Sure they were!
They haven't been back since and every single child is completely free of their abuse and neglect.
Now tearing a page out of Texas history comes the State of Utah trying to save face.
They are claiming that they will give the F LDS Church back the Trust "For now" and with conditions.
Mark now claims that at some point a year or so down the road, he will Appeal the bitch slapping of Lindberg and retake the Trust. The success of that Appeal won't come in the Utah AG's lifetime, that's a certainty, but I guess it does wrap up some loose ends for him.
He also thinks the Trust is going to pay Wisan, and that Wisan is going to stay on as Trespasser in Chief. The fact is, once the Trust is back under the Churches control, like the children's return, he can huff and puff all he wants, it's no longer his call.
Wisan and the ambulance chasers along with the book selling pole dancers can certainly sue for the money they are owed, but all they need to do is to convince a real Court of Law that the Trust owes a debt incurred while it's Rights were being unconstitutionally violated and they have to pay their thief's for their efforts. Good Luck on THAT one brucie!
The only entity being somewhat realistic in this situation is the State of Arizona who will not sign off on handing the Trust back. They at least are not delusional in thinking that the Church is going to remain under Utah's boot while they run to the 10th Circuit for salvation. Arizona says there's no way they're going to hand over the Trust to Warren Jeffs. One has to wonder what they don't understand about Judge Benson's Ruling that Warren Jeff's has NOTHING to do with the un constitutionality of the theft of the Trust. Arizona simply has no say in where the Trust goes.
The bottom line after all the pissing that went on today by everybody is that Judge Benson will be deciding the issue since Utah and Arizona STILL THINKS they are in the Trust business. What they all need to do is to sit down and read Benson's 48 pages of bitch slapping and live with it, face, or no face.
Wednesday, April 6, 2011
Tuesday, April 5, 2011
UTAH DECIDES IT WILL APPOINT CHURCH LEADERS.
In a move Adolf would have been proud of, the State of Utah has decided IT will now tell the F LDS Church who is going to be their Bishop and Stake President.
The State is in Federal Court TODAY to explain how it is going to get itself OUT of Church business after un Constitutionally taking over the Churches Trust, but I guess they like being hauled into Federal Court, and spending all those Tax dollars defending the un defendable, that they want to show the Judge how REALLY ignorant about the Law they can get. NOW, The State of Utah will tell the Church who their Leader is, in their opinion. I wonder what the Feds are going to be saying about THIS takeover?
Control of polygamous sect appears headed to court
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah state officials are blocking any further attempts by rival church leaders to seize control of Warren Jeffs' polygamous sect, which likely means a judge will decide.
The commerce department's Division of Corporations has placed an administrative hold on the two legal entities that comprise the Hildale, Utah-based Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The hold is in place until May 2, according to a memo from the division's director, Kathy Berg.
Last week, church elder William E. Jessop, 41, filed to take over the church presidency from Jeffs, who is currently in a Texas jail awaiting trials on criminal charges of bigamy and sexual assault of a minor.
Days later, Jeffs loyalist Boyd Knudsen shot back with a counter-filing that removed Jessop and reinstated Jeffs. Knudsen, the registered agent for the church corporation, also claimed in twin affidavits that Jessop had falsely claimed any authority in the church.
In a second set of affidavits filed Monday, Knudsen claimed some 4,000 members unanimously voted Sunday to support Jeffs' presidency.
The papers also say the same group renounced Jessop as "not a part of said church."
It's not clear from the filing where the "general assembly" of church members occurred. The papers say church members stood to "raise their hands and voices" in Jeffs' favor.
Utah Department of Commerce spokeswoman Jennifer Bolton said Tuesday she could not say which person is now recognized by the state as the FLDS president.
When types of disputes arise in corporations, commerce officials grant the parties up to 30 days to settle the matter, or look to the courts to settle the dispute.
Rod Parker, a Salt Lake City attorney who represents the church in civil court matters, declined to comment on Tuesday.
A message left for church spokesman Willie Jessop also was not returned.
Jeffs, 55, has been the president and ecclesiastical head of the FLDS church since 2002.
In 2007, after being convicted in Utah of rape as accomplice charges, he handed over the job as president to another church leader. In January, however, that elder resigned and Jeffs reinstated himself.
William Jessop, the former bishop of the FLDS border towns of Hildale and Colorado City, Ariz., has said his attempt to assume the presidency fulfills a 2007 directive from Jeffs himself.
"I know of your ordination, that you are the key holder, and I have sent a note with my signature so that there is no question," Jeffs told Jessop in the Jan. 24, 2007, telephone call.
Jeffs told his family and other church leaders the same thing in other calls made at the same time. Recordings of the calls were released by the Utah courts as part of Jeffs' case.
Jeffs is set for trials later this year in Texas. A court has entered not guilty pleas on his behalf. His Utah convictions were overturned last year.
The State is in Federal Court TODAY to explain how it is going to get itself OUT of Church business after un Constitutionally taking over the Churches Trust, but I guess they like being hauled into Federal Court, and spending all those Tax dollars defending the un defendable, that they want to show the Judge how REALLY ignorant about the Law they can get. NOW, The State of Utah will tell the Church who their Leader is, in their opinion. I wonder what the Feds are going to be saying about THIS takeover?
Control of polygamous sect appears headed to court
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah state officials are blocking any further attempts by rival church leaders to seize control of Warren Jeffs' polygamous sect, which likely means a judge will decide.
The commerce department's Division of Corporations has placed an administrative hold on the two legal entities that comprise the Hildale, Utah-based Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The hold is in place until May 2, according to a memo from the division's director, Kathy Berg.
Last week, church elder William E. Jessop, 41, filed to take over the church presidency from Jeffs, who is currently in a Texas jail awaiting trials on criminal charges of bigamy and sexual assault of a minor.
Days later, Jeffs loyalist Boyd Knudsen shot back with a counter-filing that removed Jessop and reinstated Jeffs. Knudsen, the registered agent for the church corporation, also claimed in twin affidavits that Jessop had falsely claimed any authority in the church.
In a second set of affidavits filed Monday, Knudsen claimed some 4,000 members unanimously voted Sunday to support Jeffs' presidency.
The papers also say the same group renounced Jessop as "not a part of said church."
It's not clear from the filing where the "general assembly" of church members occurred. The papers say church members stood to "raise their hands and voices" in Jeffs' favor.
Utah Department of Commerce spokeswoman Jennifer Bolton said Tuesday she could not say which person is now recognized by the state as the FLDS president.
When types of disputes arise in corporations, commerce officials grant the parties up to 30 days to settle the matter, or look to the courts to settle the dispute.
Rod Parker, a Salt Lake City attorney who represents the church in civil court matters, declined to comment on Tuesday.
A message left for church spokesman Willie Jessop also was not returned.
Jeffs, 55, has been the president and ecclesiastical head of the FLDS church since 2002.
In 2007, after being convicted in Utah of rape as accomplice charges, he handed over the job as president to another church leader. In January, however, that elder resigned and Jeffs reinstated himself.
William Jessop, the former bishop of the FLDS border towns of Hildale and Colorado City, Ariz., has said his attempt to assume the presidency fulfills a 2007 directive from Jeffs himself.
"I know of your ordination, that you are the key holder, and I have sent a note with my signature so that there is no question," Jeffs told Jessop in the Jan. 24, 2007, telephone call.
Jeffs told his family and other church leaders the same thing in other calls made at the same time. Recordings of the calls were released by the Utah courts as part of Jeffs' case.
Jeffs is set for trials later this year in Texas. A court has entered not guilty pleas on his behalf. His Utah convictions were overturned last year.
D-DAY FOR UTAH TO GET OUT OF THE TRUST BUSINESS
Today is the day that the Federal Court has given the State's of Utah and Arizona, as well as a jerk Utah Judge and her criminally charged accountant, to explain exactly how it's going to get it's ass out of the United Effort Plans Trust.
Reversing all of Wisan's criminal activity over the past 6 years will be the least of his worries, since his un constitutional involvement in somebody else's business now leaves him wide-open to change his Misdemeanor charges to Felonies. His failure to immediately cease and desist after being informed of his illegal practices by a Federal Judge isn't going to help his case much, since he can's hide under the skirts of Dan Fisher's puppet anymore by claiming ignorance of the Constitution or "I was only following Orders". When a Federal Judge tell's you you're being a bad boy, you DON"T turn around and moon him Brucie boy!
For Mark's part, he'll claim "I told you so" to his bosses in the LDS who have been giving him his marching orders in this case, but he really isn't all that concerned with this case in view of his condition. A more pressing matter is his choice of who he's going to be meeting in the hereafter. I wouldn't be too worried about Barbara or William Jessop, but hopefully, Val will have some words about being persecuted to death by Mark. I know damned sure he wouldn't want to meet me!
The good news for Mark is that he will now be able to claim his brides and become a polygamist in Heaven. Ironic; the man spends his life on earth persecuting the same folks he yearns to be in Heaven. As an outsider, perhaps the Quorum of the 12 can explain how this Doctrine is not the most hypocritical pack of bullshit in the world! Do they believe the Jews eat pork chops up there? Do they believe Muslims love their Christian brothers? Fascinating!
As for Denise, all her hopes and dreams of a "Higher calling" on the Bench have gone up in polygamist smoke. Maybe she should have stayed a Catholic and become a Miami pole dancer. Well, cheer up Denise, you can always get a job cleaning teeth in Dan's place. Maybe you could write a book. How about; "How I partied during Law School". We could file it in the Dewey Decimal System under "Self Destructive Behaviors".
As for the State's; You boys need to go back to the budget room and figure out how your going to reimburse 6,000 individuals (Plus their relatives) who were screwed by you over the past 6 years out of their rightful property.
Yes, it is true that these people you hate so much are not litigious and probably won't sue your ass off along with Denise's tits; but at the rate Warren's going, there aren't going to be many followers left to turn the other cheek, and you're going to have some pretty savvy lawyers reminding those now left of the kind of payday they're looking at to meet their "Just wants and needs".
Reversing all of Wisan's criminal activity over the past 6 years will be the least of his worries, since his un constitutional involvement in somebody else's business now leaves him wide-open to change his Misdemeanor charges to Felonies. His failure to immediately cease and desist after being informed of his illegal practices by a Federal Judge isn't going to help his case much, since he can's hide under the skirts of Dan Fisher's puppet anymore by claiming ignorance of the Constitution or "I was only following Orders". When a Federal Judge tell's you you're being a bad boy, you DON"T turn around and moon him Brucie boy!
For Mark's part, he'll claim "I told you so" to his bosses in the LDS who have been giving him his marching orders in this case, but he really isn't all that concerned with this case in view of his condition. A more pressing matter is his choice of who he's going to be meeting in the hereafter. I wouldn't be too worried about Barbara or William Jessop, but hopefully, Val will have some words about being persecuted to death by Mark. I know damned sure he wouldn't want to meet me!
The good news for Mark is that he will now be able to claim his brides and become a polygamist in Heaven. Ironic; the man spends his life on earth persecuting the same folks he yearns to be in Heaven. As an outsider, perhaps the Quorum of the 12 can explain how this Doctrine is not the most hypocritical pack of bullshit in the world! Do they believe the Jews eat pork chops up there? Do they believe Muslims love their Christian brothers? Fascinating!
As for Denise, all her hopes and dreams of a "Higher calling" on the Bench have gone up in polygamist smoke. Maybe she should have stayed a Catholic and become a Miami pole dancer. Well, cheer up Denise, you can always get a job cleaning teeth in Dan's place. Maybe you could write a book. How about; "How I partied during Law School". We could file it in the Dewey Decimal System under "Self Destructive Behaviors".
As for the State's; You boys need to go back to the budget room and figure out how your going to reimburse 6,000 individuals (Plus their relatives) who were screwed by you over the past 6 years out of their rightful property.
Yes, it is true that these people you hate so much are not litigious and probably won't sue your ass off along with Denise's tits; but at the rate Warren's going, there aren't going to be many followers left to turn the other cheek, and you're going to have some pretty savvy lawyers reminding those now left of the kind of payday they're looking at to meet their "Just wants and needs".
Sunday, April 3, 2011
JOHNNIE HANNA IS A COP
Johnnie Hanna is a cop from Texas who has had a hard-on for Mormons in his midst since day one of the attack on the Ranch in Eldorado and the subsequent kidnapping, rape and abuse of 465 Mormon children by Texas CPS and CASA.
In my opinion, he was infuriated by the return of those Mormon children to "His" community when the Texas Court of Appeals bitch-slapped the local demagogic "Judge" who is bent on persecuting the Mormons, barbie walthers.
Ever since, the boy with the banana in his pants has been on a personal crusade to avenge that "Travesty of Justice" as he see's it, and has gone out of his way to see to it that these pack of vermin hang from the nearest tree. (Almost back to the good old days.)
My first encounter with Johnnie occurred through some e mails between me and a chick who was trying to groom one of the Mormon children from her bedroom at 1:00 in the morning. The girl really didn't want to go muff diving with the bitch, and she tried to get rid of her. Naturally, barbie and Johnnie thought the chick was doing a great service to the child, so they defended her actions. The chick then tried to use Johnnie against me. I guess Johnnie knew it would be tough to try to explain in open Court why Texas was aiding and abetting the girls grooming by the dyke, so he never pursued the issue with me as the dyke wanted him to.
Following that, Johnnie seemed to appear from under every rock in the case of the kidnapped children:
When the stolen "Evidence" was leaked, it was Johnnie's dated signature on the back of it that appeared in his own hand writing. (He gave out the documents PRIOR to the Search Warrant date that authorized it's taking in the first place)
As the "Official" keeper of the "Evidence", it was Johnnie who had control of the unredacted pictures of children that suddenly and mysteriousely appeared on the Internet. This is against Texas "Law", but lets keep in mind that Johnnie is a cop. Cops in the U.S. are allowed to lie and to fabricate evidence. They can even pretend to be lawyers representing defendants to gain evidence, so passing out pictures of children for folks to droll over was probably rather minor to Johnnie, so long as he had his lynching jones satisfied.
Folks in other States suddenly and mysteriously had possession of the "Evidence" under Johnnies control.
Good old Johnnie was up to his ass two-belts deep in "Evidence" and he just couldn't seem to distribute it around fast enough so long as it put them creepy Mormons necks in those nooses.
Now Johnnie has taken it upon himself to supply that same "Evidence" to another Country to try to get THEM to hang these Mormons for him. Is Canada a County in Texas? Is the "Evidence" his personal property to distribute as he feels fit, or is it part of a criminal trial, subject to Chain of Custody? If the "Evidence" is being freely poured over and distributed to every bigot and hater in two countries, how is its authenticity and integrity being maintained? Does Johnnie even know who has been sifting through the Records and altering them or has he just thrown the door open?
In 2008, Johnnie found 31 "Children" on the Ranch who were either pregnant, or already had children. This "Proved" these Mormons needed to hang. Johnnies problem was that the oldest of his fantasy "Children" was 37. His story fell apart and Johnnie had to move onto the next story. It wasn't as juicy, but he chose "Broken bones". (We all know how that bullshit turned out.)
Now Johnnie has found another "31 children" in Canada. Naturally, Daffy Bramham is all over this new revelation from Johnnie like a horsefly is to a pile of shit.
My only question is this:
What is it about the number 31 that attracts Johnnie so much?
Is that how many donuts he can eat at a sitting?
Is that his I.Q.?
Was that his age when he graduated Junior High School?
Is that the number of virgins he's expecting when he dies?
I know what it isn't: Like the 31 "little girls" in Texas, it isn't reality. Then again, it doesn't HAVE to be reality, it's a headline, and folks never forget headlines.
After all, we all know all them boy babies were killed and buried all over the Ranch, don't we Johnnie?
So Johnnie; What is it about little girls and the number 31 that has you drooling?
In my opinion, he was infuriated by the return of those Mormon children to "His" community when the Texas Court of Appeals bitch-slapped the local demagogic "Judge" who is bent on persecuting the Mormons, barbie walthers.
Ever since, the boy with the banana in his pants has been on a personal crusade to avenge that "Travesty of Justice" as he see's it, and has gone out of his way to see to it that these pack of vermin hang from the nearest tree. (Almost back to the good old days.)
My first encounter with Johnnie occurred through some e mails between me and a chick who was trying to groom one of the Mormon children from her bedroom at 1:00 in the morning. The girl really didn't want to go muff diving with the bitch, and she tried to get rid of her. Naturally, barbie and Johnnie thought the chick was doing a great service to the child, so they defended her actions. The chick then tried to use Johnnie against me. I guess Johnnie knew it would be tough to try to explain in open Court why Texas was aiding and abetting the girls grooming by the dyke, so he never pursued the issue with me as the dyke wanted him to.
Following that, Johnnie seemed to appear from under every rock in the case of the kidnapped children:
When the stolen "Evidence" was leaked, it was Johnnie's dated signature on the back of it that appeared in his own hand writing. (He gave out the documents PRIOR to the Search Warrant date that authorized it's taking in the first place)
As the "Official" keeper of the "Evidence", it was Johnnie who had control of the unredacted pictures of children that suddenly and mysteriousely appeared on the Internet. This is against Texas "Law", but lets keep in mind that Johnnie is a cop. Cops in the U.S. are allowed to lie and to fabricate evidence. They can even pretend to be lawyers representing defendants to gain evidence, so passing out pictures of children for folks to droll over was probably rather minor to Johnnie, so long as he had his lynching jones satisfied.
Folks in other States suddenly and mysteriously had possession of the "Evidence" under Johnnies control.
Good old Johnnie was up to his ass two-belts deep in "Evidence" and he just couldn't seem to distribute it around fast enough so long as it put them creepy Mormons necks in those nooses.
Now Johnnie has taken it upon himself to supply that same "Evidence" to another Country to try to get THEM to hang these Mormons for him. Is Canada a County in Texas? Is the "Evidence" his personal property to distribute as he feels fit, or is it part of a criminal trial, subject to Chain of Custody? If the "Evidence" is being freely poured over and distributed to every bigot and hater in two countries, how is its authenticity and integrity being maintained? Does Johnnie even know who has been sifting through the Records and altering them or has he just thrown the door open?
In 2008, Johnnie found 31 "Children" on the Ranch who were either pregnant, or already had children. This "Proved" these Mormons needed to hang. Johnnies problem was that the oldest of his fantasy "Children" was 37. His story fell apart and Johnnie had to move onto the next story. It wasn't as juicy, but he chose "Broken bones". (We all know how that bullshit turned out.)
Now Johnnie has found another "31 children" in Canada. Naturally, Daffy Bramham is all over this new revelation from Johnnie like a horsefly is to a pile of shit.
My only question is this:
What is it about the number 31 that attracts Johnnie so much?
Is that how many donuts he can eat at a sitting?
Is that his I.Q.?
Was that his age when he graduated Junior High School?
Is that the number of virgins he's expecting when he dies?
I know what it isn't: Like the 31 "little girls" in Texas, it isn't reality. Then again, it doesn't HAVE to be reality, it's a headline, and folks never forget headlines.
After all, we all know all them boy babies were killed and buried all over the Ranch, don't we Johnnie?
So Johnnie; What is it about little girls and the number 31 that has you drooling?
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