LINDBERG DOESN'T GET BITCH SLAPPED BY FEDS, SHE GETS RAPED.

In a 48 page Decision, a Federal Judge in Utah told the State of Utah, that they NEVER had any business in the religion business is the first place.

As a result, The U.E.P. Trust will go back to it's rightful owners, the people of the F LDS Chuch, and things will HAVE to revert back to where they were prior to the illegal taking. Among other things, that means that those who worked with Bruce Wisan at destroying the F LDS Church, will find themselves out on the street, rather than Church members.

The Article Below came off the front page of the Salt Lake Tribune. The Story was about the Federal Court's Decision that the taking of the Trust was un Constitutional, and therefore, illegal.

In the Decision the Judge literally said that Warren S Jeff's legal problems had NOTHING to do with the legitimacy of the taking.

SO WHAT PICTURE DID THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE PUT UP CONCERNING THE DECISION?

 

The story was about a Trust, land, property, houses, business, dairies, a wiped-out zoo with all it's animals, and people being evicted from their homes.

Like Denise Lindberg, the Tribune goes back to the old whipping boy approach, the "Evil" Warren Steed Jeffs.

In 48 pages, the Federal Court said Warren's problems and the taking of the Trust are two different matters. Maybe the Tribune needs to read that Decision, and stop pandering to the haters and bigots of the F LDS Church.

In a decision that could have major implications on a long-running court battle, a federal judge ruled Thursday that the state of Utah violated the Constitution when it took over a polygamous sect’s property trust nearly six years ago.

U.S. District Judge Dee Benson’s decision is a victory for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints. Its leader, Warren S. Jeffs, reinstated his legal control over the church last week from the Texas jail cell where he is awaiting trial on charges of bigamy and sexual assault.

"Virtually from its first step after it decided to reform the trust, the state court was in forbidden territory," Benson wrote. 

"The defendants speak at long length about how bad — even criminal — Warren Jeffs’ behavior was, but they say little that is relevant to defend their own wholesale interference with an established church."

(The Salt Lake Tribune needs to read these words again, they don't seem to understand the English language.)

While state attorneys appeared to argue that the $110 million trust was supporting Jeffs’ criminal acts, that wasn’t the case officials made for taking it over in 2005 — and it hasn’t been proven in court, Benson wrote. The church’s property was inextricably tied to its religion, and the state’s attempt to pull the two apart was a violation of the separation between church and state, he decided.

"It’s a really great day for constitutional rights," said FLDS attorney Rod Parker, who represented 6,000 members of the church in the case. "It takes a lot of courage on the part of judge to say, ‘OK, I know this group is out of favor, but this isn’t right.’ "

In the short term, the decision grants a preliminary injunction blocking the sale of the 700-acre Berry Knoll Farm, considered sacred by the church. The long-term future of the trust, however, wasn’t immediately clear. A separate order will define the "precise extent" of the injunction, Benson wrote, though no hearings or deadlines were immediately set.

Attorneys for the state will likely appeal.

"We strongly disagree with Judge Benson’s ruling, and now we’re going to look at our options, including an appeal," said Paul Murphy, spokesman for the Utah Attorney General’s Office. Officials will consider their next move in a meeting next week. 

(I read the Decision. The Federal Court Answered each and every Argument used by Utah for the Taking. Yes, they will probably Appeal, why not, it's certainly not their money going down the tube. 

In the Decision, the Federal Court ripped Judge Lindberg a new one. This was no mere bitch slap, she got raped, justifiably.)

Valued at $110 million, the trust contains nearly all the property in the group’s home base in the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz., along with its settlement in Canada.

Called the United Effort Plan, the trust was created in 1942 to fulfill the fundamentalist Mormon principle of communally holding property.

Before the state takeover, it suffused nearly all aspects of life for the church’s approximately 10,000 members. Their homes belonged to the trust, they worked in trust fields, factories and dairies, and the food they ate came from the trust, Benson wrote. All decisions were made by church leaders based on FLDS principles such as commitment to the faith.

The 2005 state takeover was virtually unprecedented, Benson wrote.

"The defendants cite no case that is even suggested to be remotely similar enough to the instant case to support their defense. This is because there isn’t one," he wrote.

(This is a Legal fact that NOT ONE LAWYER OR JUDGE IN UTAH UNDERSTOOD?)

The Attorney General’s Office made the move after FLDS trustees failed to respond to lawsuits filed in 2004 by former members seeking damages for abuse they suffered under Jeffs. The plaintiffs included a nephew who said Jeffs and other uncles sexually assaulted him as a child and six "lost boys," young men who said they were forced to leave the community to reduce the competition for wives.

(Three points for the Tribune for including child sex into the story, this will sell.)

State officials said they feared people could lose their homes if those plaintiffs were awarded hefty sums in damages. 

(Which explains why UTAH took over and started evicting F LDS Church members from their homes and gave bogus "Dead's" to non-members only.)

The trust was structured so that if it failed, ownership reverted to Jeffs, who, in 2006, was charged with rape as an accomplice for presiding over the marriage between an unwilling 14-year-old girl and her cousin. His conviction was later overturned.

(I'm shocked the Tribune acknowledged the over turning of the case. Usually the story line is merely that he was an accomplice to allowing a man to "Rape" his cousin. By the way, there was NEVER anyone convicted of raping the girl, so being an accomplise to something that never happened was a neat trick on Warren's part, but had WHAT to do with the Trust? According to the Federal Judge; SQUAT!) 

Third District Judge Denise Lindberg decided to reform the trust. She tried to avoid running afoul of the separation of church and state by removing religion from the trust itself. But for the FLDS, religion and property were so intertwined that any action was unconstitutional, Benson said.

"One may as well attempt to make Deuteronomy secular, or the Koran, or to eliminate football from the Super Bowl," he wrote. 

(Or give her a brain.)

The only option the court had was revoking the trust — but that might have meant it reverted to Jeffs.

(Actually, revoking the Trust was NEVER an option; it is written, almost word for word, to the same exact Trust used by the LDS Church. If the F LDS Church Trust was "Illegal", so was the LDS Trust. Now as a member of the LDS Church, Denise couldn't choose that option, now could she?) 

Instead, the court appointed accountant Bruce Wisan to run the trust.He began the process of separating the homes into subdivisions and giving back property to excommunicated members. At first, no FLDS members protested the decision or responded to repeated efforts to involve them in the case. Jeffs apparently ordered his followers to "answer them nothing" and disdained the land on the Utah-Arizona border in favor of a compound built in Texas, Benson wrote.

But the members no longer donated their time, labor and money to the trust. They stopped paying property taxes. With little money coming in and fees mounting, the trust fell into debt.

Then, in 2008, the same year Texas authorities raided Yearning for Zion Ranch, "Jeffs apparently had a change of opinion," Benson wrote. When Wisan proposed selling Berry Knoll Farm, the FLDS entered the legal fray.

A cascade of court hearings in St. George, Salt Lake City and Kingman, Ariz., followed. When the state court denied their petition to intervene in the case, the FLDS filed a federal lawsuit in 2008. Benson decided then to wait and let it play out in state court.

With additional legal costs adding to the financial woes, the trust fell more than $3 million in debt by August 2009. Conflicts over who had rights to farms, homes and the church cemetery proliferated. Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff admitted the situation was a "mess."

(His "Mess", he is in the pocket of dentist Dan Fisher, and was the front man for the Taking from day one.)

The church won delays of the Berry Knoll Farm sale, but it lost in Utah Supreme Court, which unanimously ruled last year that members had waited too long to challenge the takeover and restructuring. In October, FLDS attorneys revived the federal suit. Benson granted their request for a temporary restraining order.

"It is one thing for a state to tell a church and its members that they, just like all other residents of the state, may not smoke peyote, or commit child sexual abuse, or violate any other law of general application," Benson wrote. "But it is quite another thing, altogether, to reorganize the religious activities of such churches and their members to make them conform to the states’ version of appropriate secular behavior."

(There goes that pesky Constitution once again, Denise.)

But Wisan’s partner, W. Val Oveson, said he has been "preserving property and protecting the homes for families living on the UEP property ... for the last six years. 

(For NON-F LDS Church members only.)

Clearly, the federal court is directly at odds with all five members of the Utah Supreme Court. 

(Yes, the Federal Judge understands what the Constitution has to say about separation of Church and State. Do the 5 LDS members of the Utah Supreme Court bow to the Constitution, or the Quorum of the 12?) 

We will continue to do our best to administer the trust while an even higher court resolves this dispute."

($1,000.00 bet says that Wisan is already lobbying the State to pay his bill for pilfering and ravaging the Trust assets over the past 7 years. He most certainly isn't going to be paid through the Trust for stealing it from the F LDS Church. Besides, cousin Bruce has a bigger problem on his hands; his "Trespassing" on F LDS property has now become Burglery of an Occupied dwelling since the Federal Court has Decided he had no Legal right on the properties to begin with. 

Bruce may end up in prison with a Felony conviction added to his Resume'.) 

And that's my opinion.

lwhitehurst@sltrib.com

THE WHITEWASH IS PROGRESSING

The rotund head of the Childrens Abuse Center of San Angelo, Texass, Judge Browns wife, Debra,  seems to be on-track to skate away from her Las Vegas junkets easier than Peggy Fleming.


When the damsel and a gaggle of her gal-pals began cavorting around the Country with IRS 501 (c) (3) Federal Tax Free Dollars, the question was asked how and why she would be doing that. 

Like Dan Fisher, the Utah dentist who uses his Tax Free money in his vendetta against the Churches he doesn't like, Debra and the broad broards of San Angelo CASA seem to think that they have their own personal piggy banks to harass and persecute them dreaded Mormon men who have the audacity of actually wearing the pants in their families, something these versions of females despise. 

Below is the story in one local rag. I found it fascinating in several respects, not the LEAST of which was the way CASA has managed to make damned sure their name was not associated with that of the judges wife. For the past 3 years now, a story was NEVER printed in this very same paper without claiming the junketeer was the Head of the San Angelo CASA, never mentioning a word about the Children's Abuse Center (CAC). Talk about throwing poor Deb under the bus!   

Here's the good old boy version of the cover-up, followed by what is REALLY going on in babyland.

SAN ANGELO, Texas — An out-of-town firm will interview members of the Children's Advocacy Center next week and go over the center's documents as part of an internal investigation concerning Debra Brown, the center's executive director.
(Like who? The Girl Scout's? 4-H Club?). 

Brown was still on administrative paid leave while board members conduct an "internal personnel investigation" that solely targets Brown, agency president Monty Stanley said.
(Get that distance between her and CASA!)

The investigation could produce findings within a week, Stanley said Friday.
According to a 2009 annual report, the center operated on an $810,000 budget. In the 2008 annual report, its total funding was more than $1 million. Funding sources include largely grants and contracts, contributions and money raised through special events.
(Horseshit! Read the 990 from the IRS. Funding comes mostly from the Government. That makes them Taxpayor dollars sending her fat ass to Las Vegas)

Heather Ward, a senior staff member, was made acting executive director. Stanley declined to reveal the reason Brown was placed on paid leave but said the board saw a need for extra scrutiny in December.
(Heather Ward is a CASA. The story tries to imply she is a staff member of the Childrens Abuse Center (CAC), when in fact, she is a CASA.) 

"I'm not at liberty to discuss the particulars out of fairness to Debra and the center," said Stanley, who also is the human resources director for the Standard-Times.
(Heaven forbid the rag comment on any on-going investigation, right?)

The matter first came to light when Champagne and Diamonds, an annual Valentine's Day fundraising event for the CAC, was postponed indefinitely. The CAC will be better able to set a date for the fundraiser after the investigation is complete, Stanley said.
(Horseshit! The paper needs to read it's own paper. FIRST she was fired, THEN the "Fundraiser" was canceled. The paper is trying to deflect the real purpose of the audit, which has nothing to do with a silly little 20 grand party.) 

The event is the agency's biggest fundraiser of the year, bringing in about $20,000 in past years. Stanley said a "virtually none" of the Champagne and Diamonds sponsors wanted a refund. Those who did told board members they planned on donating for future fundraisers.
(Texan's aren't known for their brains, they would NEVER admit they were taken) 

"The common response was, 'Keep it and use it as you see fit. We trust it will be put back to good use,' " he said.
(Gee guys, who ever said this had anything to do with money?)

Diedre McCoy, a spokeswoman for the CAC, said the San Angelo CAC began in 1992, a couple of years after a need was seen across the nation for a place where law enforcement, Child Protective Services and advocates could communicate with one another.
(There's money to made in stealing children.)

McCoy said Brown became the second executive director in 1995 or 1996.
Brown, the wife of Tom Green County Judge Mike Brown, could not be reached for comment. Judge Brown did not return messages.
(Be very careful boys, Judge Brown decides who gets paid, and how much in that town, you DON"T want to piss him off!)

The San Angelo Police Department made the decision weeks ago to recuse itself from playing a role in the investigation. Assistant Chief Jeff Fant said the department was alerted that something would be made public shortly before it was printed in the Standard-Times.
(Gee guys, who said the "Investigation" was possibly criminal?)

Fant said the reason the police chief and his executive staff recused themselves was that detectives with the department work closely with Hope House, one of the CAC's programs.
(So the Chief says if there's any nexus between his Office and the accussed, he recuses himself? Since WHEN?)

Chief Tim Vasquez's position on the CAC board also was taken into consideration.
(The Chief is afraid he can't do his job fairly because he knows the accused?)

Spokespeople from the Tom Green County Sheriff's Office and Texas Rangers said they were not involved in the investigation.
(Hi guys, would you like to investigate the wife of Judge Mike Brown?)

A spokesman for the National Children's Advocacy Center said each charter is "self-supporting and self-governing."
(Taking a page from CASA and distancing herself from the front of the fan.)

A San Angelo city spokesman said no city funds go toward CAC.
(Now ask him about City funds for CASA)

Employees can contribute their own money to the organization through the United Way.

In 2009 and 2010, the United Way of the Concho Valley gave $82,000 to CAC's Project Healing Feelings, according to an e-mail from the United Way. Project Healing Feelings provides children in crisis with forensic interviews, therapy, a friend of the court, social service referrals and court preparation.
(82 grand and 20 grand make 102 grand. We're talking a million here folks, so let's keep our eye on the ball.)

According to the agency, 952 children were served in 2009, and 99.2 percent of the children helped in the past five years have found permanent homes safe from abuse and neglect.
(Very strange claim! According to Texas CPS, 1 in every 6 children in Tom Green County in abused and or neglected. Is San Angelo full of shit or is Texas?)

(As for where the money went, we have to look towards those Caribbean Cruises she took and the Vegas junkets. Here's a few pics of Ms. Judge Brown and the CASA blimps in action.)

TEXAS STICKS ITS BIG NOSE WHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG

I guess out of its "Civic duty", the State of Texas sent 800 pages of stolen material from the F LDS Church in Eldorado, Texas to try to convince the Canadian's to join them in their pogrom against the Mormon population there. Texas has been trying its damnedest to eliminate and destroy the F LDS Church, even going after its women and children with a vengeance not seen since Hitler went after the Jews of the world.

The question now is, are the Canadians ready to tell not only the F LDS Church they are criminals for practicing their religion, but so are the Jews and the Muslims who practice their religion, and that they too are now criminals?

Persecution for the Jews of Canada would be nothing new, but the approximately 1 million Muslims of Canada might not be as prepared for the kind of treatment metered out to the Jews and the F LDS Church. They need to prepare.

In the past, they relied on the Charter of Rights to protect their religious practices and those days are now numbered as the persecutors of the F LDS Church are preparing to scrap the Charter to eradicate the Mormons from their midst, just as the State of Texas dumped both the State and U.S. Constitution to eliminate their Mormon "Problem" by their chief bigot, Harvey Hilderbran.

Do Muslims feel the Charter of Rights "Protects" them? If they do, then they had better think again. If Dapne Bramham of the Vancouver Sun has her way, she'll eliminate every male from a Muslim family as fast as she'll eliminate every male
F LDS Church member from theirs. It appears Daphne has a "Thing" about males, and she is dead determined to burn not only her bra, but every other Canadian woman's as well. Then we have the booksellers and the haters, who simply don't like it when other folks don't worship as they do.

These were the figures in 2000 concerning Canada's Muslim population:

Province	Muslims
Ontario	352,530
Quebec	108,620
British Columbia	56,220
Alberta	49,040
Manitoba	5,095
Nova Scotia	3,545
Saskatchewan	2,230
New Brunswick	1,275
Newfoundland and Labrador	630
Prince Edward Island	195
Northwest Territories	180
Yukon	60
Nunavut	30
Canada	579,640

Now most certainly not ALL of these Muslims practice polygamy, but that really does not matter in this case. Let us NOT FORGET; not ALL F LDS Church members practice polygamy either, but that hasn't stopped the bigots and haters from going after every single one of them: Man, woman and child, right down to a baby in the womb.

In WRITTEN pieces in her paper, Ms. Bramham has said that if the Charter of Rights is upheld in this case, then it is time to ignore the Canadian Constitution. That kind of bigotry and persecution is PRECISELY what has occurred in Texas over the past 6 years since the Mormons arrived in Texas.

The only question is; are the Canadians going to allow it to be repeated in their Courts of Law, and are the Muslims going to be the next Mormons in the bullseye.





 

BIG LITTLE DEBBIE BROWN

Some folks, who don't know me very well, have suggested I've been a tad too harsh on our poor, defenseless, innocent, Debra Brown, formally of CASA, San Angelo.

Having listened to her and watched her and her fat friends over the past 3 years, I don't think I've been harsh enough.

This is someone who watched children being ripped out of their mothers arms with no sense of shame or remorse.

This is someone who watched 465 children, and another 170 adult women be crammed into a stable with no running water, no toilets, no air or heat, and no one to supply them with proper medical care.

She was there, but never saw the abuse and neglect of the children and mothers reported by every single Mental Health worker assigned to the State.

She KNEW that not every child needed to be there, but did nothing about it. She merely went with CPS and whatever they wanted regardless of what was in the childrens best interest.

Then, even after the Court of Appeals told her that there was NO EVIDENCE that the children were in any immediate danger and had to be returned to their parents, she still embarked on her persecution of the Mormon's that continues to this very day.

The notion that this dreck is being treated unfairly is laughable. She deserves 100 times what is going to come her way. Below is a partial list of her communications with her fellow bigots and haters she posted on various blogs and newspapers that cater to people who think like her. These are people she enjoys being around. People who openly post un-redacted pictures of children and then claim they are engaging in sexually explicit activities. This, if Ms. Brown is not aware, is the very definition of Kiddie Porn, but that doesn't seem to bother her in the slightest. These are her friends, these are her peers. These are the kinds of people she would prefer to be around.

Read the words of a bent and twisted mind that is Debra Brown and ask yourself if you would allow her anywhere near your children.

Comments by ProudTexan

• December 7, 2010

Written on FLDS: Question of counsel to be addressed at Jeffs' hearing:

So does Warren think he can just waste the Court's 120 days by playing around. I'm not so sure it will work like that. I imagine that if he doesn't have counsel with him tomorrow one will be appointed for him. If he is shown to have the means to pay for it, which judging by the attorney's he's still paying for in Utah he does, he'll get the honor of paying them.

Written on FLDS: Jeffs a challenge for his jailers:

Sorry Panfish, I've already got dibs on the popcorn and drink concession.

Written on Court arraigns Warren Jeffs:

Sorry ksb3, I don't think they take volunteers.

Written on Jeffs moved to Texas for trial:

I wonder if Willie even knows he's in Texas yet. Willie is probably in Salt Lake City since there was a hearing at the Supreme Court yesterday for Lyle and Oler to explain why since they didn't answer originally, they should receive a "do over".

Written on Court arraigns Warren Jeffs:

Welcome to Texas Warren!!!

Written on FLDS: Jurors return guilty verdict:

I hate to break it to Brandon Hudson, but Warren Jeffs and the FLDS do not make laws, at least not ones that will stand up when they are in violation of Federal and State laws.

Written on FLDS to target state bigamy laws:

The wives were 66, 67 and 44 when they married Wendell.

The state did address underage marriages in the "bad acts". Wendell is said to have "officiated" in 27 underage marriages and also witnessed several of his step-daughters who were married underage, including the victim of Leroy Jessop who received 75 years.

Written on Texas jailers are prepared for Jeffs:

Pliggy, go tell it to someone who might believe it. Jeffs is not an innocent man by a long shot. His guilt will be proven by a Texas court as soon as he quits fighting to come here. If he was so "innocent" you'd think he would want to show up and prove his innocence.

Written on FLDS bishop's ex-wife gains 'victory':

Merril doesn't have that many children left at home that he has to support. 1 son by Barbara (he lost custody of Merrianne and she's married to the prophet besides), a couple by Cathleen (who lied her a** off on CNN) and then Parley who is currently himself in trouble with the Schleicher County Sheriff's Office for speeding and evading arrest. Carolyn has by far the youngest of his kids.

As for why Carolyn goes by Jessop, who knows. Barbara, Ruth and Foneta all also went by Jessop. What difference does it make really?

Written on FLDS bishop's ex-wife gains 'victory':

Woo Hoo. Go Natalie and Carolyn.

Written on BILL THOMPSON: Deny platform to FLDS spokesman:

Very appropriate barkeep since one of Abram Jeffs' wives is her own sister-in-law.

Written on FLDS TRIALS: Jeffs gets 17 years in assault:

Willie is the one who is sore, he has never been deemed worthy of the "redemption of zion" aka YFZ ranch and is only useful to the cult when they need a hired thug to bully people. he doesn't live on the YFZ. His wives and children live in Short Creek.

Written on FLDS TRIALS: Jeffs gets 17 years in assault:

Actually gemini, the search was found to be legal. if you have any other finding in a court of law, please feel free to share it with us.

Written on BILL THOMPSON: Deny platform to FLDS spokesman:

Willie Jessop has 2 known wives and 8 known children. His wives are sisters.

He was never worthy of the "redemption of zion" aka YFZ ranch and is only useful to the cult when they need a hired thug to bully people. he doesn't live on the YFZ. His wives and children live in Short Creek, but I'm not sure if it is on the Utah side or the Arizona side.

His younger 1/2 brother recently committed suicide after he was dismissed from the cult. It is very sad.

Written on FLDS member found guilty of child sexual assault:

Newsflash for Willie Jessop - Pedophilia is not a religion!!!

Written on FLDS member found guilty of child sexual assault:

Zipper peeps, I love it.

Written on Prosecution, defense rest in Jeffs' trial:

That's funny stamp, Richard Barlow has a daughter named Viola.

Written on Prosecution, defense rest in Jeffs' trial:

Defense rested without putting on any evidence or witnesses.

Written on Prosecution, defense rest in Jeffs' trial:

Alin10, I think OldWestTexan is referring to the marriage records. I'd have to argue for the resealing documents to get into the record too. The victim's father was kicked out by Warren Jeffs and her mother was remarried to the original deadbeat dad, Merril Jessop.

Written on Prosecution, defense rest in Jeffs' trial:

I think the reporter would be the mysteriously missing Richard Jessop Barlow who finally showed up.

The title of this piece is misleading. The only ones disputing the documents are those who don't want them to see the light of day because those documents show not only this man is guilty, but others are too. The documents show underage marriage, bigamy and aiding a fugitive from justice.

Written on Prosecution, defense rest in Jeffs' trial:

Looks like Richard J. Barlow was found or turned himself in.

Written on FLDS TRIALS: Witness' ties to state cited:

Julie, he could have come right out and asked her if she received money from Dan Fischer, but he didn't. She testified that she's only been partially reimbursed for expenses incurred to date.

Written on Jury seated in trial of Abram Jeffs:

if the child were conceived on or about May 12, 2006, Abram would have just turned 35. Sounds like to me that either his attorney can't do simple math or is saying the sex took place before May 9.

Written on Jury seated in trial of Abram Jeffs:

I haven't Panfish, she was married off to Abram at 14 and had her first child at 15. She's the sister of the victim in the Emack case. Some loving mother they've got, huh. Mommy dearest is currently married to none other than Bishop Merril himself. Dad got exed for some unforgiveable sin which was probably sneezing at the wrong time.

Written on Jury seated in trial of Abram Jeffs:

You know, it's really sad that Abram's family isn't here to support him, but when they've been spread out from here to yonder, it's kinda hard to give support. Best he can come up with is Wee Willie and that's not much support.

Written on Jury seated in trial of Abram Jeffs:

Julie - basically no mormons are on the jury because they didn't bother to show up for jury duty. 12 were called to be there yesterday and low and behold none bother to show up. Seems they don't care a wit about Abram. As for this being the trial of a religion, if your religion said it was all right for you to smoke pot and you smoked it and got caught, would your trial be about you breaking the law or about your religion?

Written on FLDS trials: Potential jurors called back:

san angelo's already shown them what they think of messing around with underage girls. abram's praying they can get a jury in schleicher county so they don't move his trial up here. keate got 33 years vs. leroy's 75. where would you want to be if you were abram? he's obviously not smart enough to accept a deal and get the lenient amount the state would offer, he wants to shoot the dice and gamble.

Written on FLDS trials: Potential jurors called back:

I wonder if this new batch of 100 are the ones who didn't show up on Monday.

Written on FLDS trials: Potential jurors called back:

Willie's not real bright, is he?

Written on Jury selection process focuses on sect members:

Since the FLDS hide out behind a locked gate, this occasion was taken to serve those who ventured out. I sure hope they handed one to willie the mouth.

Written on Jury selection process focuses on sect members:

i don't think it's a call to serve on the grand jury, i think it's a call to appear before the grand jury. sure makes you wonder which flds showed up for jury duty today.

Written on Jury selection process focuses on sect members:

that's old news news, but royal is right. the majority of the people at the ranch are related by blood within 3 generations. that makes them ineligible to serve on the jury. in fact, i don't think 2 people who are related to each other can serve on the same jury. it's just the way it is.

janet jeffs nielsen conveniently forgot that she was the aunt of the victim in the raymond jessop case until she was reminded by eric nichols during voir dire. it would have been much easier for her to simply raise her hand when the general question of "are you related to the defendant or the victim in this case" went out. instead, she decided to withhold evidence and keep sitting. that was wrong.

Written on Jury selection process focuses on sect members:

kinda makes ya wonder who's names were on that jury list.

Written on Schleicher jury pool running dry:

breaking news out of Eldorado is that Merril Jessop's 17 year old son Parley has been arrested for evading arrest.

Written on Schleicher jury pool running dry:

new0305, they can't put them on the jury if they are related to the defendant. if you go back 2 generations, almost everyone at the yfz is related. take lehi for example, he would have been excused even if he hadn't already plead guilty to his charges because he is the nephew of this defendant.

Written on Arizona drops charges against FLDS prophet Warren Jeffs to facilitate Texas prosecution:

i'm guessing he'll be held in san angelo and not eldorado.

Written on Motions filed for FLDS sect members:

Then there's also the two kids with different mothers but the same father that the FLDS family claimed were "twins" that were put in different placements.

Written on Motions filed for FLDS sect members:

LeAnn has a sister who's 18 months or so younger and then a brother who's 18 months younger than the sister. Wonder of the sister in between started school on time or if she also waited for the brother. Seems kind of funny for a kid to be able to decide that they don't want to start to school and want to wait for a sibling 3 years younger.

Written on Motions filed for FLDS sect members:

If he had enough to pay for 3 attorneys during his trial, there's some money somewhere to pay for his appeal.

Written on Motions filed for FLDS sect members:

Why didn't Hurley just ask his client or Fat Willie who was sitting right behind him throughout the trial.

Written on FLDS TRIALS: Five on pretrial docket:

Sorry I'm going to miss it, could be a grand ole time.

Written on Jessop sentenced to 75 years:

in response to VisionClarity:

We are not able to see how the wife in question wanted nothing to do with the prosecution. You think that she had to have been assaulted. No. Shame on all of those prosecutors. Shame on you who hate Merrill Jessop. I am embarrassed for you. Just a few short years ago, it was not illegal for them to marry, by age requirements. It was not legal since 1880 for anyone to marry a plural wife, especially because the religious organization LDS Church required it as a tenant of the religious laws. basically, the unconstitutional law against a religion is upheld and has been for way too long. FLDS should have been excused for polygamy and bigamy as long as it was performed by the religious organization.

the prosecution had nothing to do with the "wife" not being on the stand. they even had her on the witness list, unfortunately the flds have moved her to an undisclosed location to prevent her from testifying.

Written on Jessop sentenced to 75 years:

in response to LaughingPanfish:

Ya mean their illegal cement plant or whatever that is?

the cement plant is in san angelo, they had an incinerator at the ranch.

Written on Jessop sentenced to 75 years:

that would be nice thebaglady.

maybe merril will see the inside of the cellosteel kingdom sooner rather than later since he can't seem to pay his child support.

Written on Jessop sentenced to 75 years:

if hurley really thought inaccurate information was put out there, why didn't he call the mother of the girl to testify? oh that's right, momma is in hiding because she's given 3 of her daughters to jessop men while they were underage. hurley can call it however he wants to, but he did absolutely nothing to counteract the testimony, so now he has to live with it.

Written on FLDS TRIAL: Jury finds Jessop guilty:

her mother should be for sure. her daddy who is warren's brother was kicked out before this one was married off although he was part of marrying off two other daughters underage.

Written on FLDS TRIAL: Focus turns to marriage:

juliew, please keep spouting your crap, it makes the flds look dumber than they already are.

Written on FLDS TRIAL: 99 percent chance Jessop fathered child, experts say:

wee willie isn't so wee anymore. i saw him first hand today and yeah, he lied, there were at least 5 other flds people in the courtroom. of note though is that willie's scribe, sam steed wasn't at his post beside willie taking notes. wonder where sam wondered off too. willie's video guy was set up outside with his camera aimed at the courthouse steps videoing everyone who went into and came out of the courthouse.

Written on FLDS TRIAL: 99 percent chance Jessop fathered child, experts say:

i think it is taboo too stamp.

i'll be interested to see if daddy merril shows up in court since he apparently couldn't be bothered to be there on monday to support his son.

As the wife of a Judge, as a CASA worker, as a friend of barbie, Debbie supplied the bigots and haters with State's evidence, including un-redacted pictures of children claimed to be victims of sexual abuse. She supplied the bigots and haters with documents and medical records which were never released by the "Judge" in the case. She supplied confidential correspondence that was never a part of any trial in the matter, merely to smear and poison the public's perception of those Mormons she despises.

The one good thing in her favor was that she didn't have to steal the documents, they were freely given to her by "Friends" of the Court, and the Court itself.

Now let's see if she can play footsie with the IRS for playing with Tax Free money.

THE TEXAS BAPTIST BABY STEALING BUSINESS

Apparently, it's the time of the year again to drag Ronny RayGun out of his box again and try to make some quick cash off his dead ass.

Both his son's are on the talk show circuit drumming up business, and the Red Ronny's boy has now teamed up with one of the leading Texas baby stealers for fun and profit, the "Arrow Children and Family Ministries." headed by their chief baby thief, Mark Tennant.

More on Mark and his Baptist's in just a minute, but I first want to discuss the First Molester, Michael RayGun.

According to him, some perv took him to bed for a year as a child. We learned of this fantasy only after Michael needed some juice for his book. Since sex sell's big in America, and the "Perv" would have been dead by the time Michael mentioned his "Molestation", one can come to their own conclusions as to the truth and veracity of Mike's loss of virginity.

As for me, I can't relate: A Nassau County cop, in a Levittown pool molested me ONCE when I was a boy, so I guess these things can happen. However, if I was molested once a day, or once a week, or once a month for a year, then you can reasonably assume I was not being "Molested", I was getting my rocks off.

As it was, I didn't like being raped, so little Billy made damned sure he didn't come into contact with that particular cop again. If I had, then by all means, assume I was in a position I enjoyed.

Sorry Mike, but after the 2nd romp, you were no longer a "Victim" of anything.

Now onto the Arrow babystealers which you have seemed to hitch your wagon to.

But first, a little background:

 This is the stable that the Baptists delivered 475 Mormon children, and another 170 adults into in April, 2008

 This was the first (And last) picture of the Baptists moving their booty to the stables on April 4, 2008

This is a picture of the children and adults outside of the stables. They had to use the Port-A-Sans (Always segregated from the Baptists toilets, because the Baptists KNEW all the Mormon women had STDs), because the stables had no indoor plumbing, heat or air conditioning.

The picture isn't up to watch the children go to the toilet, it's up to show the back of the bus. "BCFS" stands for "Baptist Children and Family Services".

As the "Judge" who was hearing the case called them, the Baptists were looking after the "Cattle" while waiting for her "Cattle call". (First rule of the Nazi's, first you demonize and demean your opponent.)

Well, as we now know, the Baptist lost their animals when the Appeals Court bitch slapped the judge and Ordered all the Mormons to be returned. Since the Texas Supreme Court couldn't find an excuse to over rule the Appeals Court that would possibly pass the Federal smell test, they had to agree, and the Mormon children today live once again free and happily non-Baptist.

None of this sat well with Mark Tennant of  the Arrow Babystealers Club, and he fired this letter off to the hairball in Austin:

First of all, it is against Federal Law for a 501 (c) (3) to be lobbying anyone for Legislative action. So where is the I.R.S.?

Secondly, they needn't be concerned that the hairball didn't do anything, he isn't about to bad mouth CPS, something he has never done, even when CPS cost the State millions due to incompetence and malfeasance.

As Arrow so boldly states and even prints, they are in it to supply foster care and adoption services. How does that meet Federal and even State requirements as regards family reunification which Texas gives so much lip service to?

This letter was an embarrassment to the hairball on many fronts, not the least of which was to state in WRITING that there was an Agreement between barbie and the State to sell these kids to Arrow. They were told to go out and hire staff for their adoption business even before the State had Legal possession of their captives.

These two clowns shot off their mouth. Since the gitgo, they have been in bed with one another in the baby selling racket and THANKFULLY, they told us what we knew all along about the intentions of Texas as regards the Mormons they had stolen from the Ranch.

Unfortunately for them, the letter was written just before the Supreme Court collapsed and had to give the children back to their family's.

Say Mark, what ever happened to all those "Lost Boys" running all over Texas?